Allyship In Action

Joanne Lockwood is joined by Julie Kratz to explore what “allyship in action” looks like when DEI faces backlash and misunderstanding. Julie shares how her own corporate experience led her to focus on belonging, psychological safety, and the day-to-day behaviours that shape whether people feel included at work.

Together they unpack how performative allyship can replace real change, and why simplifying language matters when acronyms and jargon create fear, division, or defensiveness. The conversation argues for focusing on outcomes—fairness, trust, respect, and access—rather than getting stuck defending labels, and it highlights the value of calling people in (not calling them out) to create more productive dialogue.

They also discuss the wider social and political context influencing workplace inclusion, including polarisation and power dynamics, and touch on how organisational leaders and brands can respond by staying aligned to mission and values. Listeners leave with a clearer, more practical framing for inclusion work: keep your radar up, notice unfairness, and take action that builds belonging over time.